[sits silently…leaning back in his chair.. stroking his goatee…]
I guess that means I won’t be inheriting the earth. I knew I shouldn’t have cheered for the meek. I guess I am also assuming alot if I thought I was meek in the first place.
Hmm what do I do now?
Magian, is there a way to get back your meekness?
Click your heels together three times chanting…no wait that’s not it… Got be a solution around here some where…
Matthew 18:4
‘Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.’
Luke 14:11
‘For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.’
1 Peter 5:6
‘Humble yourselves, therefore, under God’s mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time.’
He who knows does not say, he who says does not know
Try not! Do! Or do not… there is no try.
This is just really semantics but…
If the meek shall inherit the Earth…
Then who gets Heaven?
Orginally posted by Arlen Blaede
This is just really semantics but…
If the meek shall inherit the Earth…
Then who gets Heaven?
[i]Revelation 21:1-3
1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
Revelation 22:1-5
1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign forever and ever.[/i]
Basically there is no longer a separation between heaven and earth. God brings His holy kingdom/city the New Jerusalem to the new earth. Thus the two are merged into one. They will be joined, but semi-separated (the New Jerusalem is surrounded by a massive wall). When the eternal kingdom comes God and His Son dwell there with those of mankind who accepted his offer of redemption.
Evil does not start with the Devil as good does not start with God.We as humans are creatures of free will,so the seeds of light and darkness starts with us.
Sounds kinda a like Utopia for those who have accepted redemption with those who do not outside of that on what’s left of the Earth or does Hell claim all those left behind?
Religion and Philosophy are one and the same.They both are a way of living your life in order to reach a certain goal.In most philosophies it is a hightened enlightenment,in religion it usually is some final place of glory in the next life.All religion and all philosophies have three truths composed of three parts.1)Moon,the Sun,and the Earth.2)Mother,child,and the father.3)Life,Death,and Rebirth.
I am not Atheistic,nor am I Agnostic.I am not Christian,nor am I Muslim,Hindu,or Pagan.I simply am.One’s religion and sense of self with that of which he understands not,should be his own decision.Sadly though in this world,one does not have such luxury.For too many times someone asks the God question and does not like what he hears.
Orginally posted by Arlen Blaede
Sounds kinda a like Utopia for those who have accepted redemption with those who do not outside of that on what’s left of the Earth or does Hell claim all those left behind?
Revelation 20:10-15
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
To put it bluntly, if your names not in the book your not in the kingdom.
Orginally posted by Riegan Swordwraith
Sadly though in this world,one does not have such luxury.For too many times someone asks the God question and does not like what he hears.
What are you trying to say with this statement?
with regards to the first half of your statements: If ones denies absolute truth in all forms your generalizations fo philosophy and religion maybe true (though that in itself would be invalid since no truth exists…). To deny the existance of any absolutes is foolishness–PERIOD.
How many times have you ever asked someone of their religous stance,have you received an answer,and you automatically wish to contradict their stance,how wrong they are for their choice of worship,or not to worship as the case may be??You may not be angry,you may not even say anything,but you automatically consider that person as something else,based on nothing more than whether or not they worship God or not,or how they do.That is what I am refering to.
As to the first half of my statement,I was showing the “truths” as parallels between religion and philosophy.
Orginally posted by Riegan Swordwraith
How many times have you ever asked someone of their religous stance,have you received an answer,and you automatically wish to contradict their stance,how wrong they are for their choice of worship,or not to worship as the case may be??You may not be angry,you may not even say anything,but you automatically consider that person as something else,based on nothing more than whether or not they worship God or not, or how they do.That is what I am refering to.
I do not judge anyone’s religious beleifs. We are all humans with free will. Choose what you wish. 
I will spare you my apologetic and any further philosophical rhetoric.
I thank you for understanding.I myself have no problems with discussing theology.However my views are generally ill-received,and I actually have been called a heretic once.:)I am open-minded up to the point where someone closes their mind to me.
If I offended you Lawgiver or anyone else over my comments,allow me to appologise.When I said “you” in my statement,I was not refering to any ONE person,I was meaning any who was reading it.
Once I again I appologise for any offensive statements.
It is no use arguing with religous people. Not with God telling them how to win the argument.
Just contest the bugger repeatedly. Then you don’t have to listen to him anymore 
How exactly did we get into this religious discussion? Was it my fault?
By the way how does one humble or exalt themselves?