>
> While the “holy” land was under muslim control it was more open then it
ever
> was during the xian control. The xians did slauther most of the
population in
> Jerusalem and it was mostly xians juws (spl?) living there. Somehow most
of
> the people who died during the crusides where civilians and usually xians
as
> the xian Knights classed everyone east of Konstantinopel as none xians.
And they weren’t to keen on the Romans of Constantinople, either…
I have
> to say that ALL crusades has been quite evil, exept the first one was a
bunch
> miss informed xian zeliots.
I’m not sure who these “xians” you speak of are; but I wasn’t saying that
the Crusaders were good. The whole Crusade thing, IMO, was just a bad
mistake by Alexius and that western prelate who called for it. Fact is
Turkish agressions made it nessisary for us to call for mercenary aid, and
the whole thing got out of control. Typical when dealing with Frankish
Barbarians. But, again, I will repeat that a crusade in a heroic fantasy
setting need not duplicate the vile, villanous, and ignorant nature of the
historical crusaders. Or, if you want it more close to realistic, then any
Crusade called would be in response to forgeign, “infidel” (I.E. they don’t
follow the same diety as you, or not in the same way) agression against a
friendly power of the similar (or friendly) religion (I.E. the Turkish
agressions against the E. Roman Empire, or dude’s example of coming to the
aid of Ariya if it is overun by hostile barbarians).
> But what I did want to say, that it’s quite
> crasy to say that only LG could call to a “crusade”, as I see only evil
and
> expanding religions would do that (both evil and expanding is a good
> description of mideivel xianity, and still is. Only the ortodox view of
> xianity is less expansive and evil).
>
Leaving asside real-world religions for a second, in order to try to avoid
insulting anyone’s real-world beliefs anymore than T. and I already have, I
think that alignment shouldn’t matter; any nation or civilization that has
strongly held religious beliefs should be able to call a crusade or jihad.
Btw, Anatolia still hasn’t recovered from the devistation wrought by thouse
nomadic barbarians, the Seljuk, so I’ll set asside who did more to what for
a moment. But one thing about wars, from midieval to modern times; usually
in all cases it is the civilian populace that suffers most, whether the
army marches in the name of god, or some athiest tyrant (i.e. Hitler), just
like most soldiers who have been killed during war died not on the
battlefield, but due to disease, unsanitary conditions, accidents, etc.
