On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, T E Brightwell wrote:
> Two other players have already created their characters. They’ve gone
> for Gauntlets of Ogre Power and a Dwarven Thrower +3.
I assume this is the regent of Baruk-Azhik, right? At least he’ll have
no shortage of ammunition 
> A friend warned me away from
> Roesone citing Ghoere, The Spider and Diemed as enemies I’d have to
> be watching out for all the time. Diemed looked safer with only the
> Spider to fear.
And Avanil, and the evil rampaging Medoerans
Is it just coincidence that the Anuirean regents have names which sound
like slightly warped Essex names -
Darren, Gav, Eric, Jase etc.
(I’ve been on email just a little to long
neil
Neil, who by the way has be smokin’ this board lately, wrote:
Is it just coincidence that the Anuirean regents have names which sound
like slightly warped Essex names -
Not to me. Some people previously wrote that the Anuireans have no culture.
One could treat them as the generic, default human fantasy culture. I prefer
to give them a Norman culture. This seems to fit well. Aggressive, (Normans-
the Waffen SS of the early middle ages!) good at fighting, decent rulers.
They’ve perhaps moved on to a more anglo-french culture circa the 1300s, with
regional differences and conflicts, but I think the Normans are a good base
model culture for at least the early Anuireans.
Randax
> Why doesn’t your paladin use the Diemsword ? (The Sword of the House Diem ,
> given to the first Diem by Roele)
To the list,
where would I find information on this sword? It sounds
ideal.
From,
Thomas Brightwell
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:20:36 +0000 (GMT) Neil Barnes
writes:
>
>On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Jonathan Picklesimer wrote:
>Check out either or for good general advice on
>politics and warfare. (They’re required reading for Birthright players
>really.)
>
>neil
>
How DARE you speak the names of the great prophets!!! DON’T LET OUT THE
SECRET!!! I mean, sheesh!! How am I supposed to have any edges if
everyone reads the prophets of war and politics?? And required?!?!?
Heavens NO!!! Only for us True Followers who intend to dominate Cerelia,
leave the peasants in stupidity!!! 
Benjamin
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Everything old
>
> Choosing a realm.
> I like the idea of Diemed but there’s no source book available for it.
> What I’ve done is to buy the Ariya book (N.B. Ariya is recommended
> for paladins.) and I’ll see if I can adapt any of it. I think the DM
> was keen on people choosing realms formerly controlled by fighters
> across Anuire (Roesone, Diemed etc.) A friend warned me away from
> Roesone citing Ghoere, The Spider and Diemed as enemies I’d have to
> be watching out for all the time. Diemed looked safer with only the
> Spider to fear.
>
If you’re curious you should check out Joran Lindblo’s Diemed pages (go to
Darkstar’s Links page & you should find 'em), for someone elses vision of a
Diemed.
Not that you should follow what he’s done, but you might get some
interesting ideas of your own. 
Also, the OIT is definately Diemed’s Temple. In fact, the OIT is, though
one of the smaller of the Haelyn Churches, one of the more interesting,
IMO. In Aerle the oldest Temple of Haelyn exists (check out the Book of
Priestcraft), under the control of the OIT. This isn’t to say you can’t
ally with other Haelyn Temples. . .though doctrinal differences and various
rivalrys will make that difficult (but difficult often equals fun. . .not
“go face Raesene Roele while 3rd level” difficult, by no means (getting
chopped into tiny pieces does not often equal fun. . .depending on how late
at night it is and what your mood is, however; perhaps you’ll giggle
manically, I donno.)
Ask to Ian Hoskin(Darkstar) or look in his webpage(Darkstar´s Domain)–
http://darkstar.cyberserv.com(look the Birthright links)
T E Brightwell escribió:
> > Why doesn’t your paladin use the Diemsword ? (The Sword of the House Diem ,
> > given to the first Diem by Roele)
>
> To the list,
> where would I find information on this sword? It sounds
> ideal.
>
> From,
> Thomas Brightwell
>
> ***************************************************************************
> >
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Randall W. Porter@6550 wrote:
> Neil, who by the way has be smokin’ this board lately, wrote:
When your project has stalled, you’ve got a lot of free time.
> Not to me. Some people previously wrote that the Anuireans have no culture.
> One could treat them as the generic, default human fantasy culture. I prefer
> to give them a Norman culture. This seems to fit well. Aggressive, (Normans-
> the Waffen SS of the early middle ages!) good at fighting, decent rulers.
I can see this. My historical perception of the Normans is a bit biased
-
- I tend to think 1066 & all that, immediately. There’s a bit more
Mallory and Alfred the Great mixed in with my concept of Anuire - I see
Anuire as having free peasants rather than Serfs, and generally being
less oppressive than the Normans.
neil
> > A friend warned me away from
> > Roesone citing Ghoere, The Spider and Diemed as enemies I’d have to
> > be watching out for all the time. Diemed looked safer with only the
> > Spider to fear.
>
> And Avanil, and the evil rampaging Medoerans
i’m not sure you could describe her as rampaging.. although EM
could be described as ramp/ant/
seriously, though; avanil’s quite a threat. he’s the prime contender to
the iron throne, and his borders are secure enough that he could annex
diemed if it was sufficiently weakened by conflict with medoere/rosoene.
beware also the machinations of endier. it may be a small country, but it
has sufficient cash to rasie quite a significant army.
rad
don’t you wave those bloody spears at me.
> From teb2@leicester.ac.uk Wed Feb 25 14:12:10 1998
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> From: T E Brightwell
> To: birthright@MPGN.COM
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:03:01 +0100 (BST)
> >
> > Why doesn’t your paladin use the Diemsword ? (The Sword of the House Diem ,
> > > given to the first Diem by Roele)
>
> This is a very nice sword but unfortunately my paladin has a Great
> Bloodline dating back to Azrai. As such, this fine weapon might prove
> a little too painful for him to wield.
>
Wow. You might want to reconsider your campaign set-up. It’s highly unlikely
that a Great Bloodline of Azrai has survived since Diesmaar and:
- not been corrupted into an Awnshegh
- isn’t in charge of some big kingdom
- isn’t infamous- or famous if the DM is kind
- would be trusted by anyone
- produced a paladin of healyn
I’m not trying to hammer your set-up, just point it’s inconsistent with the
BR setting as it’s presented. A Great bloodline of Azrai would spring from a
legendary champion of the evil one- The Lost, the Emperor of Anduria or a major
awnshegh. Parents such as this would be hard pressed to raise a normal child.
Randax
Randax wrote:
> Wow. You might want to reconsider your campaign set-up. It’s highly unlikely
> that a Great Bloodline of Azrai has survived since Diesmaar and:
>
> 1) not been corrupted into an Awnshegh
> 2) isn’t in charge of some big kingdom
> 3) isn’t infamous- or famous if the DM is kind
> 4) would be trusted by anyone
> 5) produced a paladin of haelyn
1,2,3,4 - I think these are all going to happen in the campaign.
As to 5,
Laurence’s (this paladin) mother had the bloodline. As with anyone of
Azraiian blood, she er, had her evil tendencies. In fact, she was an
enemy of Diemed. A powerful fiend/wizard in the Spider’s army.
Something like that.
His father was a paladin of Haelyn - minor bloodline of Anduiras. He
was a man of some importance in Diemed’s army. As happens in many a
classic fable, he fell for her. Realising that they could never live
together, (both sides considered them traitors) they went
extraplanar, leaving a child, Laurence, in the care of a friend of
the fathers. That’s the last Laurence ever saw of them. His history
explains how he gets the throne of Diemed. He is largely unaware of
his parents actions.
Any suggestions/refinements to this story would be welcome.
I think the parents have been set up by the DM as future characters.
It’s going to be fun to see Laurence trying to keep his paladin
status without being corrupted.
Laurence should be able to cope as ruler of Diemed for sometime
without others becoming aware of his status.
His main worry (not that he knows it) would be the return of the
Diemsword.
In addition, he has Bloodmark - as he progresses, his appearance is
going to change.
nice parallels between this and the creation of Dark Lord’s in
Ravenloft I think.
Ravenloft…Diemed vanishes into the mists…
From,
Thomas Brightwell
> Randax wrote:
>
> to give them a Norman culture. This seems to fit well. Aggressive,
(Normans-
> the Waffen SS of the early middle ages!) good at fighting, decent rulers.
>
That’s such an apt description; remind me not to forget it! (oh, and I
assume you mean “decent” to equal “efficient” rulers.)
>On the other hand, given that this paladin would control nearly all
>the law holdings, could he not contest the temples directly? Gain
>some sort of control over them straight away?
I would like to remind you that the priest regent is allowed free
agitate actions. He can help determine your popularity in the empire. I
suggest that your tread carefuly on this ground.
Bearcat
lcgm@elogica.com.br
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At 22:44 24/02/98 +0100, you wrote:
>
>> Why doesn’t your paladin use the Diemsword ? (The Sword of the House Diem ,
>> given to the first Diem by Roele)
>
>To the list,
> where would I find information on this sword? It sounds ideal.
I've never heard of an official one, but my homepage houses "Diatem"
which I created for this purpose. The address is below:
Bearcat
lcgm@elogica.com.br
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>This is a very nice sword but unfortunately my paladin has a Great
>Bloodline dating back to Azrai. As such, this fine weapon might prove
>a little too painful for him to wield.
You can still use it, just be very careful not to fumble with it ;)
The sielshegh in the sword would not be of any use to you (it also wasn’t to
the character who I made the sword for, he was a reynirite) and it would
probably just make you a target for theft.
Bearcat
lcgm@elogica.com.br
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