> And perhaps the regent doesn’t actually receive the regency points -
> those people or holdings that he/she rules might actually be the
> ‘vessel’ that contains the influence (ie regency points) with which the
> regent ‘uses’ to advance the cause(s) of his/her domain. So, in effect,
> there could be no real connection to land and/or holding(s).
>
> Yes they can move around, in this mixed up world of Aebrynnis, a world
> where there is a loose feudal structure but it really isn’t feudalism -
> that’s why someone who only controls armies is still considered a
> regent, and in effect, has ‘law holdings’ in which to influence his
> surroundings (and if blooded, should get regency IMO for leading these
> armies).
>According to the rules, ruling a holding up to level ‘1’ (or creating>one, for that matter) only
requires cold hard cash; so, nothing is
>stopping a non-blooded being from having actual level holdings.
Actually, to rule a Level 0 holding to Level 1 requires 1 GB and 1 RP. Unblooded characters can’t
gain Regency Points, so that makes any holding past 0 - true show of strength - impossible. Unless,
of course, some rules after the boxed set have altered the original.
>Remember that one does not need to have had ancestors at the BoD;
>the BR team gave DMs a way out by giving us a special rule called ‘The
>Lands Choice’, that allows anyone to gain regency points, at any point
>in their lives.
One of the disadvantages to living somewhere where getting all material on a subject is nearly
impossible is that supplements and accessories are hard to come by. Where is the “Lands Choice”
rules laid out? Sounds like an interesting concept.
> Seriously, maybe the domain action of investiture is just a ceremony
> perpetuated by priests to continue a perceived role in Anuirean (or
> other) society. Religion is a strong influence in societies after all.
> Maybe there is no real signifigance; perhaps it is the law regents who
> have been led by priests to believe that this ceremony is necessary to
> rule … maybe one doesn’t actually need this ceremony to be done, and
> that explains why guild and source regents don’t need to have the
> ceremony performed on themselves. Remember that the land itself is
> quite capable of making a regent in one fell swoop, no fancy ceremony or
> nothing!
There must be some serious changes or alteration in rules after the boxed set through some of the
supliments. In the Ilien sourcebook, the dying regent “Invests” his powers and ties to the sources
to his apprentice. And from my understanding of the rules, you need Regency points or must rely on
just a 10% chance to invest a holding (guild and source included) which could be bid against making
it even less likely. Still, through the normal rules, I have yet to see where one mage can pass
another mage all his sources and bloodline strength without the Investiture Ceremony.
>And perhaps the regent doesn’t actually receive the regency points -
>those people or holdings that he/she rules might actually be the
>‘vessel’ that contains the influence (ie regency points) with which the
>regent ‘uses’ to advance the cause(s) of his/her domain. So, in effect,
>there could be no real connection to land and/or holding(s).
I would think you have it backwards. The Regent does gain and hold the power. Consider source
holdings, where you could have lands with basically no society or people. As far as power moving
with the people, I think it’s not so much that but that a leader of a Providence-0 would have no
law, temple, guild to rule because you need subjects to rule with it. Therefore, the move would be
one of necessity by the regent rather than actual power within the populous.
But, again, I am new to this list, and could be ignorant on a number of subjects. It would be the
first time -g-
Bret
