Lord Shaene stealthily creeps in and starts pick pocketing the babbling fools while they are distracted in their display of who knows what. then walks to the Bartender um, another ale please sir oh and heres a tip for you,(flips him a gold piece)
Lord Shaene thinks to himself (good thing im not greedy or i would have stolen their weapons too)
[Easing behind Lord Shaene. Placing a dagger on hit throat] You know in the east they cut a man’s hand off for such crimes. You are lucky I’m a forgiving man. [slipping the weapon back into its sheath] Drink up freind. Next time just try not to be so careless. [tosses hima small pouch with 30 gp that was tied to his belt…] Besides you should pay more attention to wear people keep their money. [Turns and starts to strides out of the bar as originally intended]
Its all about the money… yep WoC sucks out your money…
WOTC is the Microsoft of the roleplaying scene.
Evil and corrupt…
I don’t think either organization is evil… though greed does seem to permeates their management descisions.
Most businesses exist for greed. Should we emulate that by playing the game for the purpose of greed? Would someone start a business not for a profit just to turn out games so people can be happy? Did communism have the right idea but not the right follow through? Does anyone have the answer?
behold the deep philosophy of Eldred!
I hav eonly played BR a couple of times and I feel it is better in many ways than traditional Table top RPGs, don’t get me wrong I’m all far collecting Magic items and treasure, but BR incorporates subjects and issues that regular table top games can’t. Every now and then it wouldn’t be bad to have a good old hack n slash but this can probably be accomplished through the “adventure” domain action, depending on you GM.
What group most benefits from the type of government?
Despotism = upper class
Democracy/Republic = middle class
Communism = lower class
Failure is not a measure of a philosophy imo rather the individuals who apply them, thus the “follow through”, but also we must ask what we really want before we glorify them. They may not be what we really want.
lol Magian, the upper class always benifits from any goverment over the long run, its just not always the same upper class.
What I mean is in despotism there is only upper and lower class thus the upper benefits most. In democracy/republic a middle class emerges thus they benefit the most. In communism the class system all is eliminated making only one class (according to philosophy) thus those in the lower class benefit.
What I mean by benefit is the standard and quality of living is mostly improved for the mentioned class.
Also communism evenly distributes the wealth (according to philosophy). For example last year 2000 the gross world income would be evenly distributed to the entire world population under this system, essentially giving every person (in the census) a $7000 income. Obviously the unemployed and homeless benefit most from this. But is this what we want as a whole?
Communism is a novel idea but the result is that some people come to expect to receive what they haven’t worked for and others can become frustrated for their lions share of the effort.
Are we talking about the purposes and ideals of governement or Birthright?
While I agree with Lawgiver that we got a little off Birthright I would just like to put forth one last statement…
Governments that practiced “communism” corrupted it in such a way that the upper class is the only group that benefited. IE. Castro is rich and lives well while the people suffer.
As far as the $7000 argument. Money wouldn’t really be needed in a perfect communist society. Everyone’s needs would be met as long as they contributed to society. If they failed to contribute then they would be criminals against society and put in prison where they would be forced to work thus contributing and thus they would be fed. As long as there is greed in the world communism would not work.
I chose to abstain from the debates on the form of governemnt since it was off subject. Eldred hit is right on the head with communism.
My personal vote (assuming morality whould take presidence) is actually a totalitarian form or dictatorship. Now before you breathe down my neck, let me just say that a small strong central government will always beat a bureaucracy anyday. I’m all for people’s choice (assuming they can pass a minimum I.Q. test), I’m still in favor of voting. But a vote for the dictator rather than a president and congress. I can’t stand twits that vote by political party regardless of the candidates qualifications. Such action is foolishness and shouldn’t even be legal! In my opinion political parties should be banded. Its nothing but a method for channelling money and swaying support through extra curricular social activities (I’ll leave it at that).
The judicial branch could still exist, but with much harsher penalties and speedier trials. And much fewer appeals! … I better stop before I get to laying down the law(;)). Its a passion of mine and I tend to get irrate and opinionated rapidly (in case you couldn’t tell from my countless other posts…).
It doesn’t suprise me that the Lawgiver would passionate about laying down the law!
I would agree with the idea that the party system should be abandoned but I disagree that a vote for the best dictator would be preferable. I would like to see a direct vote. More like what democracy was intended to be. Anyone who claims that America is a true democracy is just fooling themselves.
Enough said on the politics of stuff.
Birthright should be played for the fun of playing the politics of a fantasy world!
I agree, the political parties should be abandoned, but the U.S. is not a demacrocy, it is a democratic/Republic. At the time of forming the government it seemed the best way to be able to represent people from even the most remote areas of the country, and it was. However, given todays technologies it is very possible to establish a true democracy.
As for the Judicial branch, it needs revamped in a bad way, since it is the only branch that has no real checks on it to keep it balanced. When was the last time you heard of a judge being impeached, or a judges desicion vetoed, and not by another judge. The Great Wizard of OZ has spoken.
That is why I said that anyone who claims America is a democracy is fooling themselves!
Now back to the original question…who voted that greed is what the game should be about…I still don’t get why!
You never with the game or it is up to the person what is more important. Think about it people no matter what this game is fun or wy would you be playing it. Alittle common sense there. WHat is better magic or money. Well you have to think about it. What suites your character better. Are you a regent and need the gold for army’ s and navy’s. are you a ruler that demands tribute with RP. Are you a guilder and receive both. You have to decide what you are going to build. WHen people say that is how you create a character at the beginning. I know i am always changing my character and differnt ideas. I know i changed my ideas a few times about prestige classes for new goals that the party has to do or how i can create the best name for me. Like you may have read in my other messages i prefer thiefs and guilders. Why be a regent and mages which dont knock me are good but if you can run a successful guilder you are more powerful than anyone besides the gods. You create trade with one regent and another but those to regents are enemy’s. You have to learn to profit from anyone. That is why everything balances out. You cant have one without the other.